May 18, 2023

Patrick Gaspard, president of the Center for American Progress and a former U.S. ambassador to South Africa, joins the show. Martin Griffiths, the U.N.'s humanitarian chief, is heading up an urgent appeal to meet the rising crisis in Sudan. Former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch discusses how the Ukraine war can end and why the West must not repeat the mistakes of Crimea.